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Digital Art stamp by Lumaris Digital Art stamp by Lumaris
I didn't mean for it to sound rude if it does...
This is rather inspired from how many people I've seen/read that think digital art is "not true art" because it's made on the "computer." Seriously. There ARE people that think the computer does it for you. <.<

:bulletred: Digital art has it's advantages, and so does traditional art.
:bulletred: Traditional art is very difficult, but so is digital art.
:bulletred: Neither one is quick.
:bulletred: You have to learn the program you use to digital paint, just like you have to learn the colors and texture of the traditional paint before you can make a masterpiece.

I'm not saying digital art is better, and I'm not trying to bite off the heads of people who think it's a piece of cake. I'm just saying ...

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Ludbro Featured By Owner Apr 11, 2015  New Deviant Hobbyist
True words from a true (wo)man.
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DragonStar2197 Featured By Owner Apr 9, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Agreed. It was rough when I first began using my drawing tablet for my digital stuff, now I'm fairly good, depending on which program I use.
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Astro-Dog Featured By Owner Feb 9, 2015
i agree with you here
i've seen stamps where the people always talk about the undo button
and that you cant put love into a digital drawing
how you are bad for using the undo button
BC U cant do it in real life !!!!111
that kinda makes me sad
i DO put love into my digital drawings
i draw both on a canvas with acrylic paint and on a computer
and i put passion into both of it
so when ppl come and tell me that i simply cant put love into digital art it makes me sick

sorry for my english i'm from germany uwu
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rainbowninja888 Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2015  Hobbyist Artist
amen
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The-Wrath-of-Me Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
My mom is like this...
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CherubFeet Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
I HATE it when people make that assumption. I have made both digital and traditional art, and they are equally as challenging in my opinion.
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Akasuki-Ninetails Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2014  Student General Artist
I do digital art all the time even if  I suck at drawing I try and it really isn't easy.
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Amurlou Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I can imagine something like this happening

Traditional artist: Hey, do you like this drawing I made with all my watercolours?
Digital artist: Wow! That's really cool! You like this drawing I made with Photoshop?
Traditional artist: Photoshop? Like on the computer?
Digital artist: Yeah!
Traditional artist: That's not real art.
Digital artist: Why not?
Traditional artist: Because the computer just does it for you. Digital artists are lazy because of that.
Digital artist: .........gtfo...
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Apple-Aero-Kitties Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2015
ha story of my life I hate it when this happens
hhh
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CherubFeet Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
people should never be that way towards fellow artists.
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CrazyZombie8 Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2014
While Traditional and Digital are both very challenging, require talent and practice, and are both time consuming, the main problem I have with this whole debate is that Traditional is more challenge, astronomically more time consuming, as well as resource consuming.

I feel as though digital tools give artist such an unbelievably amount of crutches to lean on... Sure sketching is about the same I suppose, save the simplicity of not having to work with paper (no tears, no wrinkles, no crumple-scrap-start fresh's) But anything further than that and digital artists have a huge upper hand. Everything you do is so quick with digital, so quick to do and to fix. If you were to make a super detailed full colored piece with a background and all the whistles digitally, and were to try to replicate it traditionally...? I mean, when it comes to finished pieces, what would take an hour to color, shade and detail digitally will guaranteed take several hours + to come near traditionally... 
You need to find the colors, and if you dont have to the colors you have to take the time blending or mixing until you hopefully can get the color you need (this can take an incredible amount of time. Digital color scales are a godsend, don't deny it) plus even after that, if you're doing any kind of wet media (Paint, Markers) you have to wait for each and every layer to dry before you can even touch it, that or risk messing up and crumple-scrap-star fresh again. (mad respect for watercolor artists, I have no idea how they do it!)
Plus the effects... aren't their loads of easy access "effects" and tools in digital tools? Like, things that adjust the shade, or tone, or contrast at the touch of a finger? You're usually gonna have to crumple-scrap-start fresh if you want to re-contrast your traditional piece... I'm sure theres more, like my personal favourite, the fill tool! You can pour a color into as big a sealed off space as you want with one click? What!? Thats amazing! Seriously. Technology is amazing. And its amazing because of how easy and/or instant it makes everything! And the easy and instant of technology does not exclude digital art mediums.

As for the resources... Either way you have to pay to play but... With digital, its usually a one pop price and your set for life, while traditional readily and regularly cost the artist, Like, have you SEEN the prices of high end art materials!? I suppose 5-10 bucks per paint tube isn't so bad in hindsight, but when you need to buy 20+ colors your easily spending hundreds of dollars, and it will run out! I personally have spent prolly double the price of a decent tablet in traditional supplies in the last 3 years ono
Heck, some of those amazing full colored acrylic or oil super professional commissions you see probably cost the artist half the price they're selling it for!  Hence why i'm so bothered by people devaluing traditional by refusing to pay more, or even the same price for digital pieces... 

I totally have respect for all artists of any kind, i'm a traditional artist who's been seriously looking into starting to learn digital, but you need to recognize all the aspects of the two. Personally I dont think digital vs traditional anything should even be compared as they are two completely different worlds, but, that's unfortunately not gonna happen :/

...I dunno, i'm in a constructive discussion/debate mood, forgive me xD
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The-Wrath-of-Me Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
actually, filling in the spots u wanna color is the wrong way. otherwise, if u do that, when you shade u may mess up your inked lines and then mess up the whole thing....
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CrazyZombie8 Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2015
Err, well that hasn't been the case anytime I've seen anyone do it xD So, idk *shrug*
Plus that just goes back to the ctrl-z command, if you make a mistake you have the ease of access of a undo button...? ono 
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The-Wrath-of-Me Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Both digital and traditional have ups and downs. Just because its made on a digital device does NOT mean that its easier, the art doesnt paint itself.
as u said, digital has the erase button. but, other than that it is much, much harder....for me at least... i actually HATE doing digital for that reason, but it is easier to upload to DA, and pencils hurt my hand LAWLZ
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CrazyZombie8 Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2015
I recognize that, seeing as that was the entire point of my long statement above? ._.
As well as, many people seem to fail to see that by saying that something is an easier task in someones opinion doesn't mean they're saying the task does it itself... Just because you're painting with a broader brush doesn't mean the wall is gonna magically coat itself, right?? (which is a statement i'd appreciate ScourgeTheKiller225 to read as well ;3) 
As well as one opinion doesn't determine everything, just because its more challenge for you doesn't necessarily mean that's the majority rule. As is this whole debate, it's people's opinions, like any debate is. And like any debate, all the opinions are going to have all sorts of variables, such as how experienced or educated one is on the topic or how passionate one may be on a topic~
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The-Wrath-of-Me Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
WELL ITS A FREE COUNTRY, WITH FREE OPINIONS.



now goodbye and have a nice day:iconsheeshplz:
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CrazyZombie8 Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2015
Again, exactly the kinda point I was making,
Sorry for upsetting you, geez... ono
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MelodyGlow Featured By Owner Dec 5, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
having unlimited resources that digital art offers does not make it even a fraction easier, only convenient.
 traditional art is only harder due to the fact that you can hardly make mistakes on your actual work- but experts know that you have to sketch and what not.
drawing digitally In no way makes your art look any better if you don't have the skills.
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CrazyZombie8 Featured By Owner Dec 5, 2014
I wasn't trying to say that the lack of paying for more resources made digital art easier, that's why it had it's own separate paragraph from the things that do : O (in fact I don't think there's anywhere in that that alludes to unlimited resources directly(or indirectly) results in digital being "easier")

additionally, in regards to your last statement, I'd suggest re-read the very first sentence, where I specify that digital art takes skill and practice just as any form of art would ;3 Don't lose sight of the initial statement when reading an argument, it's there for a reason! ;D

Also, apologies if I come of as rude, I don't intend to be in the slightest, i'm just... not the best at making typed words have a pleasant tone, I suppose?
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MelodyGlow Featured By Owner Dec 5, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I wasn't referring to your paragraph I just wanted to add more Ideas generally.
I guess it was my mistake that I attached my comment to yours.
Nod 
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CrazyZombie8 Featured By Owner Dec 5, 2014
OH.
Sorry, seeing it as a reply I kinda thought it was, y'know, a reply? xD s'all good though~ :hug:
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MelodyGlow Featured By Owner Dec 5, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
like I said, my mistake.
i'm sorry
Meow :3 
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YuxuOorius Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2014  Student Digital Artist
My art teacher said that digital artist are lazy I'm like I get a butthurt teacher wow fuck him. Cause we were doing a art contest and my friend asked can we do digital art and he said "digital art doesn't take 10-21 hours to make" I'm like oh my fuck how is he a damn art teacher and I mean.

I was so fucking pissed I'm like you think digital art is any fucking easier than traditional art.
and I gotta admit traditional art is as hard as digital but some people are good at each that's why some people think digital artist make everything so easily and some digital artist think traditional artist are lazy
but their both the same even one mistake in digital art can actually ruin your whole drawing just like traditional
their both equally hard and the same.

I hope i don't get flamed. QvQ thanks :D
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KrisCynical Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
That right there is bountiful evidence that your art teacher has absolutely no idea WTF he's talking about and I daresay he's probably never even touched a digital art program in his life. :unimpressed:

When people say things like that to me I usually tell them, "Okay, if it's so easy then why don't you go and make a really amazing digital illustration right now and show it to me when you're done. It better be friggin' MIND BLOWING, too, because after all, it's ~easy.~"
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YuxuOorius Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2014  Student Digital Artist
So true I don't get what's my teachers problem with digital art :/
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BlackLightning95 Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2014  Hobbyist
True, i mostly need 4-6h for one character with a really simple textured BG
For worked out Pictures nearly 12h
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MarielKeybash96 Featured By Owner Edited Oct 27, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
True i draw digitally but it takes me forever to draw even the simplest of things.(If i detailed them)
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iNsAnItYsPurity007 Featured By Owner Oct 19, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
This it MY opinion!! To me, digital art is just easier because you can fix the mistakes easily by just using Ctrl+z and get rid of the messed up line while with traditional artist, when they erase, they usually leave a faded line from the erased line and with coloring, what digital artists do it just use the eraser, but traditional artist might have to scrap the image if it looks undefinable especially with line art. Trust me, me and my friend get into constant arguments over this and I'm prepared for the comments I might get, but to me, Digital is a little easier then traditional... Don't hate me!! ;_;
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KrisCynical Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
Please don't read hostility into this because there is none. Your opinion is just something I have to deal with all the time as a digital illustrator, so I am going to explain why people argue with you about your opinion.

"Digital is easy/easier" and the "ctrl+z" stuff is usually thrown by people who have very little actual experience with the medium and are thus ill-informed about it, and it gets really old to be told repeatedly by said ill-informed people that your work is easier just because you have ctrl+z at your disposal. It's belittling, and it's insulting.

It took four years of art school and a BFA for me to do what I do and believe me, when I took my digital classes in college some people crashed and burned spectacularly even though they had ctrl+z. Ctrl+z didn't help them, and in the case of most really skilled artists, correcting tools aren't used all that much whether they're traditional media OR ctrl+z.

Experienced artists use their mediums very lightly while innitially laying down an image so it can be corrected easily.

Charcoal has kneaded erasers.
Graphite has white erasers.
Ink has whiteout.
Acrylics dry and can be painted over.
Oils dry and can be painted over.

Some things like watercolor, scratch board, marker, etc. are unforgiving, but just because a couple different traditional medias are unforgiving doesn't mean digital is "easier". You still have to have just as much technical skill as an artist to work digitally as you do traditionally, and that skill isn't negated because of ctrl+z.

Thumbnailing, composition, rough sketching, tight sketching, line work and width variation, anatomy, color studies, light studies, value structure, color theory, form, lighting, reflected light and color, figure/ground relationships; you have to know ALL of it in order to produce a solid illustration, whether it's in traditional OR digital media. Then in programs like Photoshop you have to think in a three dimentional way because of structuring your layers and what order you put them in. Layers matter a LOT.

I know my work isn't "easier" just because it's digital. Art schools don't think digital is easier, either, which is why most don't allow you to take your (required) digital illustration course(s) until your junior year at the earliest. You have to have your traditional skills (like what I listed above) nailed down and pretty much mastered before you can take on digital and be any good at it at all.

Again, please do not read any hostility into this because there is none. I'm just explaining why people argue with you about the opinion you hold, because digital artists get really tired of it. :x
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iNsAnItYsPurity007 Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Sorry... I wrote this comment, most likely (DON'T TAKE MY WORD FOR IT!!) 11 - 3 in the morning and I was having a bad day.

PLEASE FORGIVE!!

APH Prussia tackle hug 
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KrisCynical Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
No forgiveness is needed. Like I said, I wasn't saying that with hostility. It's all good.
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iNsAnItYsPurity007 Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
hug 

Thank you, friend!
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Splashia Featured By Owner Oct 28, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
That only depends on the technique that the traditional artist uses. If the traditional artist draws/colors lightly, then it will not leave a mark. Also, the other portion about digital art only depends on the program the person uses. Not every program does it simple as that.
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katleidoscopic Featured By Owner Aug 3, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
While I do think that traditional art is harder, I agree fully with this stamp. :)
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Just-Call-Me-J Featured By Owner Jul 15, 2014  Hobbyist
I'm learning how to use photoshop. Trust me, without my teacher, I'd be lost.
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Honeysucle10 Featured By Owner Jul 7, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Oh so true!  When I show some of my relatives how I draw on the computer, they always think I used a "stencil" or something...even though they JUST watched me draw it from scratch! :XD:  Digital art requires just as much artistic knowledge and experience as it would when working in any other medium.
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Nightshade-Galaxy Featured By Owner Jun 16, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
First time I've heard of that, geez. I'd like to see them take a shot at it. ;<

Lovely gif tho, I'm going to use it :3
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fuckshiru Featured By Owner Jun 12, 2014   Digital Artist
Of course it's not easy. You have to either buy a tablet and a drawing program or draw with a mouse.
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Pinkster7 Featured By Owner Jun 1, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Yeah, I know how that feels. I know people who don't appreciate digital art because they think it's just clicking buttons.
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Aka-DenSuFreak Featured By Owner May 31, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I agree that both traditional and digital art is quite hard and it takes me A LOT of time with them. I do both digital and traditional and I say it's hard making my pics look good.
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CristalPeace Featured By Owner May 17, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
exactly. I admit its easier to do things because you can undo but the talent is still needed to make it come out as beautiful as it dose. ^-^
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Darkfoot727 Featured By Owner May 9, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
If I may add something: Undo and Layers don't really make anything easier. Sure, you can undo a mistake, but what if that single line stroke has a part you want, and a part you don't? Or, again, what if a piece of highlight is partially right but partially not? You can't just undo that, because you may not be able to restore the good part of that highlight by hand. I almost NEVER use the undo tool unless I absolutely need to (i.e. I've made a complete mistroke due to my tablet pen dragging across the tablet without my knowledge (until I hear the sound of it, of course)).

Layers only go so far. You have to know how to use them effectively. It's one thing to say "Look, I can separate my line art and my flat coloring", but it's a completely different matter to be able to say "This blending mode does this, and this is how that'll look when we do this".

TL;DR: Layers and Undo only take you so far, and it takes real skill to use them.
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Lumaris Featured By Owner May 12, 2014  Student Digital Artist
I couldn't agree more. Often times I use 2 or 3 layers when painting. Most the time, additional layers happen as the finishing touches to the overall piece (ie, if I need to adjust the curves or levels, but don't want to apply it to a flat image, to which I could lose everything if it comes out wrong, etc.)
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Darkfoot727 Featured By Owner May 13, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Exactly. Though I still use more layers because I need to work in layers top-down when painting because I can't quite grasp where everything goes if I have a solid blob of color.
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Lumaris Featured By Owner May 18, 2014  Student Digital Artist
Blobs are fun! :dummy: 
I understand, it's all a learning process. If I had more time, I'd be pushing out more art and actually improving. I've been at a standstill for a couple years, now. :hmm:
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Darkfoot727 Featured By Owner May 18, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Pretty much the same for me. I've been at a standstill because I've not been able to do more art because I'm working on a science degree (Biology and Psychology are my favorite sciences).
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TealXUltimate Featured By Owner May 11, 2014  Student General Artist
Rely on them too much and it can mess you up when you're doing traditional art. XD
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Darkfoot727 Featured By Owner May 12, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
The key is that I don't use layers like crazy or the undo, and often, I end up with less than 10 layers in any given picture of mine. I also do traditional art, though I never post it because I don't have a scanner.
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Noodle-licious Featured By Owner Apr 30, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
i have friends, aquaintences, and even family who think digital art is a piece of cake and when i tell them art doesn't do itself they just brush me off. :I its a real downer.
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TealXUltimate Featured By Owner May 11, 2014  Student General Artist
Sit them in front of the program and show them how it works, or tell them to make something themselves.
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